From dan at envoisolutions.com Wed May 2 05:25:39 2007 From: dan at envoisolutions.com (Dan Diephouse) Date: Wed May 2 05:24:25 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] getting started In-Reply-To: <4636AC88.2000104@brondsema.net> References: <4636AC88.2000104@brondsema.net> Message-ID: <7b774c950705020225i39c14790xf6f34240dcaaec68@mail.gmail.com> I'm happy to pitch in and do specific things that are delegated to me. Not sure if I have enough time to be a first tier organizer though :-) On 5/1/07, Dave Brondsema wrote: > > So as I mentioned earlier I created > http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids2Planning for us to use. > > I think the *very* first thing is to decide who is organizing and make > sure they're on this list. I will help organize, and I'm pretty sure > Kyle Adams will too. Does anyone else on this list want to help? > > I'd like to send the following message to the barcampers list (those who > signed up for last year). Let me know if you think it's okay. > > > Subject: BarCampGrandRapid2! > Body: > > Hey barcampers! After the great fun we had last year, we're starting to > plan a second BarCampGrandRapids to be held sometime this summer. If > you'd like to help organize it, hop on the organizers list (via > http://www.gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers) and say hi. > > P.S. It's likely that we will have someone from Google giving a > presentation at BarCamp :) > > -- > Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net > http://www.brondsema.net : personal > http://www.splike.com : programming > <>< > > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers > > > -- = Dan Diephouse Envoi Solutions http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We could easily print the name tags up on Avery labels and skip over the lanyards and laminating. It would be nice if we could find someone with a portable printer/laptop who could be present at check-in and print up name tags for folks who don't register ahead of time. Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070504/1a42df69/attachment.htm From dave at brondsema.net Fri May 4 08:54:14 2007 From: dave at brondsema.net (Dave Brondsema) Date: Fri May 4 08:53:02 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Hosting In-Reply-To: <463AF24E.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <463AF24E.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <463B2CF6.6080205@brondsema.net> Kyle Adams wrote: > Has anyone contacted Calvin yet about hosting this year's event? If > not, then I can do so... > = > Kyle > = I haven't yet, so I don't think so. Go for it Kyle. The basic parameters I've had in mind are: a friday evening and all day saturday on a weekend we're available. And in North Hall 2nd floor or 3rd floor Sci. Bldg. -- = Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be nice if we could > find someone with a portable printer/laptop who could be present at > check-in and print up name tags for folks who don't register ahead of > time. > > Kyle In that vein, I do have a Brother label printer. It too won't print color but it is small, very fast, efficient and convenient. The print isn't photo quality but I think it's still very good for printing logos. If you want to design something for that, plan on a label size of about 2.43" x 4". Jeff From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue May 8 13:32:50 2007 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue May 8 13:31:46 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Date? Message-ID: <46407C0202000052000399DA@mail2.gfs.com> OK, it looks like Calvin will host us again. Now we just need to pick a date... I'm going to propose July 20 & 21. Thoughts? Kyle _____ Kyle Adams | Java Developer | Gordon Food Service | 616-717-6162 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Joel Adams Subject: Re: GrandRapidsBarCamp2 Hosting Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:04:21 -0400 Size: 7869 Url: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070508/fd701391/attachment.eml From dave at brondsema.net Tue May 8 13:41:16 2007 From: dave at brondsema.net (Dave Brondsema) Date: Tue May 8 13:40:35 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Re: GrandRapidsBarCamp2 Hosting In-Reply-To: References: <46406DCE0200005200039998@mail2.gfs.com> Message-ID: <4640B63C.7090701@brondsema.net> So.. based on this and BarCampGrandRapids2Planning, it looks like our first choice would be July 20/21 and secondary choices Aug 3/4 and July 27/28. Kyle I presume you'll follow up with Calvin and I'll follow up with Google? Anyone have suggestions for Google presentation topics? They sounded flexible; I'm thinking about GWT and/or their Maps API right now. Joel Adams wrote: > Hi Kyle. > = > Sounds great from this end, so let's plan on it. Pick out the specific > weekend you want, and I will put in a reservation for the rooms, notify > security again, etc. = > = > If it's in late July this time instead of late August, we'll likely > avoid the scheduling conflict that made 2nd floor North Hall off-limits > last year... > = > -Joel. > = > = > On May 8, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: > = >> Hello! >> >> Activity is picking up again on the BarCamp Organizers mailing list >> and we're starting to plan this year's event. We were wondering if >> Calvin would be interested in hosting again. Right now we're looking >> at late July, early August for a Friday evening (and overnight to >> Saturday) and Saturday all day. The third floor of the Science >> Building worked well last year, though I think we'd still prefer >> second floor North Hall (less stairs to carry stuff up :-). >> >> Let us know if that would be a possibility. >> >> Thanks, >> Kyle >> >> >> _____ >> >> Kyle Adams | Java Developer | Gordon Food Service | 616-717-6162 > = > -Joel. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Prof. Joel Adams > CS Dept, Calvin College > http://www.calvin.edu/~adams > = > = > = > = -- = Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GWT and Maps sounds fine. My only concern would be that their Maps API is a bit old-hat. Here are a couple other technologies that are a bit newer/less familiar: * GData Client Tools ( http://code.google.com/p/google-gdata/ ) * Google Checkout API ( http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/ ) * The Revamped Google Analytics ( http://www.google.com/analytics/ ) In the end, I'd be fine with whatever the Googlers who come out feel comfortable presenting on. Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070509/ebf1732c/attachment.htm From dan at envoisolutions.com Fri May 11 16:49:31 2007 From: dan at envoisolutions.com (Dan Diephouse) Date: Fri May 11 16:48:13 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Date? In-Reply-To: <46407C0202000052000399DA@mail2.gfs.com> References: <46407C0202000052000399DA@mail2.gfs.com> Message-ID: <7b774c950705111349x3d6cc8ebrcf07a7f6dd765238@mail.gmail.com> Sounds ok with me! - Dan On 5/8/07, Kyle Adams wrote: > > OK, it looks like Calvin will host us again. Now we just need to pick a > date... > > I'm going to propose July 20 & 21. Thoughts? > > Kyle > > _____ > > Kyle Adams | Java Developer | Gordon Food Service | 616-717-6162 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joel Adams > To: Kyle Adams > Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:04:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: GrandRapidsBarCamp2 Hosting > Hi Kyle. > > Sounds great from this end, so let's plan on it. Pick out the specific > weekend you want, and I will put in a reservation for the rooms, notify > security again, etc. > > If it's in late July this time instead of late August, we'll likely avoid > the scheduling conflict that made 2nd floor North Hall off-limits last > year... > > -Joel. > > > On May 8, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: > > Hello! > > Activity is picking up again on the BarCamp Organizers mailing list and > we're starting to plan this year's event. We were wondering if Calvin > would be interested in hosting again. Right now we're looking at late > July, early August for a Friday evening (and overnight to Saturday) and > Saturday all day. The third floor of the Science Building worked well > last year, though I think we'd still prefer second floor North Hall (less > stairs to carry stuff up :-). > > Let us know if that would be a possibility. > > Thanks, > Kyle > > > _____ > > Kyle Adams | Java Developer | Gordon Food Service | 616-717-6162 > > > -Joel. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Prof. Joel Adams > CS Dept, Calvin College > http://www.calvin.edu/~adams > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers > > -- = Dan Diephouse Envoi Solutions http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How many folks do you think will be attending? -----Original Message----- From: Dave Brondsema [mailto:dave@brondsema.net] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:14 AM To: Sidney Miller Subject: Follow-up re: Grand Rapids JUG Hi Sidney, I just wanted to follow up the voicemail I left you on Tuesday with an email. We are planning on hosting BarCampGrandRapids2 on the evening of Fri July 20 through Sat July 21 at Calvin College. Do those dates work for you? As far as topics go, GWT would still be of interest, but there will be a larger contingent of non-Java developers at the BarCamp. So some ideas from our organizers are the GData client tools, the Google Checkout API, and usability design (google products have some very nice interfaces!). I don't know how flexible you are and what topics you're interesting in presenting, but I think we'd be interested in whatever you have to offer. For some background on our event, here's the site we had for last year: http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids And this years' is starting at http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids2. If it does work out to have a Google presentation, that presenter is certainly welcome to attend/participate in the rest of our presentations & social activities during the BarCamp. I forgot to ask when we talked a few weeks ago, but I'm also curious about your role at Google and how you found out about our JUG. My cell# is 616-648-1191 Thanks! -- Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Send soon, here is what I'm going to send her tomorrow sometime: (I know barcamps are informal but I want to give them some concrete stuff for them to work with) The outline of our schedule will be: Fri July 20: 5pm - setup, checkin 6-7 - dinner 7-9:30 - 30min sessions 9:30 - out for drinks Sat July 21: 9am-10am - breakfast 10-12 - 30min sessions 12-1 - lunch 1-2 - Open Spaces 2-4 - 30min sessions 4-5 - closing & cleanup The specific sessions and Open Spaces conversations will be determined during the BarCamp based on the experience & interest of the attendees. From you, we would hope to have one presentation (or two, if you were interested). We would like to place it as a "keynote" at the first session on Fri or Sat. It could be 30-60 minutes, and my earlier email mentioned some topics that would be fitting. If you're also willing to provide sponsorship it could be in the form of food, a round of drinks, shirts, or supplies. Sponsors are recognized with a poster on the schedule wall and in the opening/closing sessions. Thanks -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Follow-up re: Grand Rapids JUG Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:30:16 -0700 From: Sidney Miller To: 'Dave Brondsema' David - Can you please give me a run down on what you are going to need from us and what your outline is for the program? I need to get that to my PM for review. Thanks Sidney Google -----Original Message----- From: Dave Brondsema [mailto:dave@brondsema.net] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:29 AM To: Sidney Miller Subject: Re: Follow-up re: Grand Rapids JUG At this point we are moving forward with planning BarCamp for the July 20/21 weekend. If that doesn't work with you but one of our other alternate weekends does (Aug 3/4, July 27/28) we could try to change to accommodate that, but we'd have to do so soon. That's just contingency planning, though. Just let us know when you have more details worked out on your end. Thanks Sidney Miller wrote: > We are working on this on our end. What do you need from us? = > = > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Brondsema [mailto:dave@brondsema.net] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:44 PM > To: Sidney Miller > Subject: Re: Follow-up re: Grand Rapids JUG > = > Last year we had 20+ and this year we are thinking it'll probably be 35-40. > At this point it is quite speculative, after we start getting the word = > out and people sign up we will have a better estimate. > = > Sidney Miller wrote: >> Hi David! >> >> How many folks do you think will be attending? = >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Brondsema [mailto:dave@brondsema.net] >> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:14 AM >> To: Sidney Miller >> Subject: Follow-up re: Grand Rapids JUG >> >> Hi Sidney, >> >> I just wanted to follow up the voicemail I left you on Tuesday with = >> an email. We are planning on hosting BarCampGrandRapids2 on the = >> evening of Fri July 20 through Sat July 21 at Calvin College. Do = >> those dates work > for you? >> As far as topics go, GWT would still be of interest, but there will = >> be a larger contingent of non-Java developers at the BarCamp. So = >> some ideas from our organizers are the GData client tools, the Google = >> Checkout API, and usability design (google products have some very = >> nice > interfaces!). >> I don't know how flexible you are and what topics you're interesting = >> in presenting, but I think we'd be interested in whatever you have to > offer. >> For some background on our event, here's the site we had for last year: >> http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids And this years' is = >> starting at http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids2. If it does = >> work out to have a Google presentation, that presenter is certainly = >> welcome to attend/participate in the rest of our presentations & = >> social activities during the BarCamp. >> >> I forgot to ask when we talked a few weeks ago, but I'm also curious = >> about your role at Google and how you found out about our JUG. >> >> My cell# is 616-648-1191 >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Dave Brondsema >> Software Developer >> Cornerstone University >> >> > = > = > -- > Dave Brondsema > Software Developer > Cornerstone University > = > = -- Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070523/86ae941b/attachment.htm From dan at envoisolutions.com Wed May 23 11:35:29 2007 From: dan at envoisolutions.com (Dan Diephouse) Date: Wed May 23 11:34:08 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Marketing In-Reply-To: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <7b774c950705230835g1b448972j407e2810ffcd2137@mail.gmail.com> On 5/23/07, Kyle Adams wrote: > > OK, time to kick off marketing again... > > Dave, I see we have the registration page listed as a pre-req. How hard > would it be to resurrect last year's page and re-use? > > Dan, would you be willing to assist with marketing again? I'm looking to > leverage your excellent network here :-) > My excellent network which resides completely outside of GR? ;-) I would of course be willing to help. Do we have any great ideas this year for marketing? - Dan -- = Dan Diephouse Envoi Solutions http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/2007052= 3/c22d89bf/attachment.htm From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Wed May 23 12:16:39 2007 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Wed May 23 12:16:03 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Marketing In-Reply-To: <7b774c950705230835g1b448972j407e2810ffcd2137@mail.gmail.com> References: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <7b774c950705230835g1b448972j407e2810ffcd2137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <465430A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> >>> "Dan Diephouse" 5/23/2007 11:35 AM >>> My excellent network which resides completely outside of GR? ;-) I would of course be willing to help. Do we have any great ideas this year for marketing? >>> Err... yeah, that network :-) Better make that "excellent networking skills". I'm mostly hoping you'll be able to do some of the same things you did last year, in terms of e-mailing all of the area tech group mailing lists. Aside from hitting the e-mail lists of all area technical groups (see the planning page for a good list), I'm interested in how we might better spread the word to area companies. I'm planning on having several mini-barcamps at GFS in the months leading up to GR BarCamp, so that should help stir up interest here. I'm also pondering how we might get more involvement from the design and university communities. Dave, you're obviously connected with Cornerstone and we have connections to GVSU through GR JUG. Calvin has Abstraction; do the other universities have similar forums that we could use to publicize BarCamp? Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm mostly hoping you'll be able to do some of the same things > you did last year, in terms of e-mailing all of the area tech group > mailing lists. > = > Aside from hitting the e-mail lists of all area technical groups (see > the planning page for a good list), I'm interested in how we might > better spread the word to area companies. I'm planning on having > several mini-barcamps at GFS in the months leading up to GR BarCamp, so > that should help stir up interest here. > = Cool, I hope it works better than your "barcamp mystery" strategy last year ;) > I'm also pondering how we might get more involvement from the design and > university communities. Dave, you're obviously connected with > Cornerstone and we have connections to GVSU through GR JUG. Calvin has > Abstraction; do the other universities have similar forums that we could > use to publicize BarCamp? > = I don't know of any avenues into other communities. I think we asked GR JUG folks to advertise at their respective places, but obviously if they weren't interested in BarCamp they wouldn't do so. Perhaps we can ask people simply to give us a name/email of person to contact at their work/school; and then we take it from there. Or we can send individualized emails to active JUGgers asking them to pass on a email to their colleagues. It would be good to find a way to Kendall. We could even browse their website and cold-call someone there if need be. I put some community websites (craigslist, eventful, upcoming) on the planning page.. I don't know if there are any more like that. -- = Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The process worked well last year too: camper submits form, data written to text file, I check file periodically and add emails to the barcampers mailing list. -- = Dave Brondsema Software Developer Cornerstone University -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 888 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/200705= 23/de6fd4ac/signature.pgp From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Wed May 23 14:50:14 2007 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Wed May 23 14:49:01 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] registration form - Marketing In-Reply-To: <46547647.1040601@brondsema.net> References: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <46547647.1040601@brondsema.net> Message-ID: <465454A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> >>> Dave Brondsema 5/23/2007 1:13 PM >>> I think it'd be easy. >>> Cool. Make it so. ;-) Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070523/87d38f43/attachment.htm From dan at envoisolutions.com Wed May 23 17:04:18 2007 From: dan at envoisolutions.com (Dan Diephouse) Date: Wed May 23 17:02:56 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Marketing In-Reply-To: <465430A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <7b774c950705230835g1b448972j407e2810ffcd2137@mail.gmail.com> <465430A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <7b774c950705231404s779c358dpbccca66e6387dc92@mail.gmail.com> Ahh yes, I completely forgot that I did that last year. I can do that again. BTW, I'll also do the beer night again if people want. I would like to echo the wish to spread the word better into area companies. I'm not sure how to best do it though. Maybe we make a list and call the various architects/developers? For instance, Quixtar might be a good one to hit. Surely companies like Herman Miller or Meijer have programmers around as well? Thoughts? - Dan On 5/23/07, Kyle Adams wrote: > > >>> "Dan Diephouse" 5/23/2007 11:35 AM >>> > My excellent network which resides completely outside of GR? ;-) I would > of course be willing to help. Do we have any great ideas this year for > marketing? > >>> > > Err... yeah, that network :-) Better make that "excellent networking > skills". I'm mostly hoping you'll be able to do some of the same things = you > did last year, in terms of e-mailing all of the area tech group mailing > lists. > > Aside from hitting the e-mail lists of all area technical groups (see the > planning page for a good list), I'm interested in how we might better spr= ead > the word to area companies. I'm planning on having several mini-barcamps= at > GFS in the months leading up to GR BarCamp, so that should help stir up > interest here. > > I'm also pondering how we might get more involvement from the design and > university communities. Dave, you're obviously connected with Cornerstone > and we have connections to GVSU through GR JUG. Calvin has Abstraction; = do > the other universities have similar forums that we could use to publicize > BarCamp? > > Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers > > -- = Dan Diephouse Envoi Solutions http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/2007052= 3/1898fc5b/attachment.htm From dave at brondsema.net Wed May 23 17:05:05 2007 From: dave at brondsema.net (Dave Brondsema) Date: Wed May 23 17:03:55 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] registration form - Marketing In-Reply-To: <465454A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <465425BE.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <46547647.1040601@brondsema.net> <465454A6.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <4654AC81.1010109@brondsema.net> Kyle Adams wrote: >>>> Dave Brondsema 5/23/2007 1:13 PM >>> > I think it'd be easy. >>>> > = > Cool. Make it so. ;-) > = > Kyle > = Will there be a new logo, or is the current sufficient for BarCampGrandRapids2? http://barcamp.org/f/barcampgrandrapids.png Should we collect shirt size, with a disclaimer that we may or may not get them? And on the topic of sponsorship: Kyle, do you think GFS will sponsor again? 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The revision would be primarily for the following reasons: 1) Move it into Inkscape and make it more open source friendly in general 2) Minimize the number of colors to reduce the cost of printing (t-shirts, etc.) >>> Should we collect shirt size, with a disclaimer that we may or may not get them? >>> Yes. I would also add a field for "Interest" along with examples ("Ruby", "Design", etc.) so that we can add that info to their badge. >>> And on the topic of sponsorship: Kyle, do you think GFS will sponsor again? If so, we'll have to coordinate if Google sponsors also >>> I think GFS would sponsor our food again, but I'll follow up on that. It would be nice if we could get Google to pay for the t-shirts. Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/20070529/07924129/attachment.htm From jeff at demaagd.com Tue May 29 12:56:35 2007 From: jeff at demaagd.com (Jeff DeMaagd) Date: Tue May 29 12:55:23 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Open Spaces In-Reply-To: <465C1EB3.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <465C1EB3.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <465C5B43.1020503@demaagd.com> Kyle Adams wrote: > Dave, this is your idea, so let's hear it :-) > > As I understand it, Dave would like to see some time in the middle of > Saturday devoted to less structured discussion time. That is, no > presenters, no topics, just people sitting around in a room talking > about design and technology. The idea is to give those who might find > a presentation intimidating a different opportunity to participate and > contribute. > > But then again, I might be completely wrong. It's worth a shot, but my angle would be to get a discussion going vs. something that's a little more one-sided with a presenter. The angle on intimidation doesn't seem quite right. It seems as if most white-collar type careers will require making an occasional presentation. I would think that BarCamp would be a lower pressure venue. Jeff From dan at envoisolutions.com Tue May 29 13:56:13 2007 From: dan at envoisolutions.com (Dan Diephouse) Date: Tue May 29 13:54:50 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Area BarCamps In-Reply-To: <465C2067.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <465C2067.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <7b774c950705291056t4563f574t8e728d8b93eedeb8@mail.gmail.com> I'd be interested in going down to chi town... - Dan On 5/29/07, Kyle Adams wrote: > > June 23-24 > http://barcampchicago.com/ > > Anyone interested in heading down to the Windy City? I'd love to see how > the big boys host/run a BarCamp. > > I'm also keeping an eye on a potential Ann Arbor BarCamp (ArbCamp): > > http://arborwiki.org/city/ArbCamp > > The date is still TBD. > > Are there any other area BarCamps that I missed? > > Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers > > -- = Dan Diephouse Envoi Solutions http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The revision > would be primarily for the following reasons: > = > 1) Move it into Inkscape and make it more open source friendly in general > 2) Minimize the number of colors to reduce the cost of printing > (t-shirts, etc.) > = Cool. Overwrite http://barcamp.org/f/barcampgrandrapids2.png when it is done (this image is used in the registration CSS) >>>> > Should we collect shirt size, with a disclaimer that we may or may not > get them? >>>> > = > Yes. I would also add a field for "Interest" along with examples > ("Ruby", "Design", etc.) so that we can add that info to their badge. > = http://gr-jug.org/barcamp/ is set up and working. Go ahead and register and make sure it works :) I decided not to add "Interest" on the registration form since I couldnt' think of a great way to collect it and I kinda think it'd be better to let people hand-write their interests on-site. That will allow more flexibility and let people see others to add to their own if they want. Let me know any feedback about the registration form. I can give access to the registrations data to any organizers who want it, in private. -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 890 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp-organizers/attachments/200705= 31/4894e3c1/signature.pgp From dave at brondsema.net Thu May 31 00:23:36 2007 From: dave at brondsema.net (Dave Brondsema) Date: Thu May 31 00:22:25 2007 Subject: [Barcamp-organizers] Area BarCamps In-Reply-To: <7b774c950705291056t4563f574t8e728d8b93eedeb8@mail.gmail.com> References: <465C2067.6F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <7b774c950705291056t4563f574t8e728d8b93eedeb8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <465E4DC8.40900@brondsema.net> I am tentatively in for BarCampChicago. I would be interested in ArbCamp, too, depending on the date they pick. Dan Diephouse wrote: > I'd be interested in going down to chi town... > - Dan > = > On 5/29/07, *Kyle Adams* > wrote: > = > June 23-24 > http://barcampchicago.com/ > = > Anyone interested in heading down to the Windy City? I'd love to > see how the big boys host/run a BarCamp. > = > I'm also keeping an eye on a potential Ann Arbor BarCamp (ArbCamp): > = > http://arborwiki.org/city/ArbCamp > = > The date is still TBD. > = > Are there any other area BarCamps that I missed? > = > Kyle > = > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > [send email to Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org via gmail] > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers > = > = > = > = > -- = > Dan Diephouse > Envoi Solutions > http://envoisolutions.com | http://netzooid.com/blog > = > = > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > = > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp-organizers mailing list > Barcamp-organizers@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp-organizers -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The idea is to give those who might find >> a presentation intimidating a different opportunity to participate and >> contribute. >> = >> But then again, I might be completely wrong. > = > It's worth a shot, but my angle would be to get a discussion going vs. > something that's a little more one-sided with a presenter. > = > The angle on intimidation doesn't seem quite right. It seems as if most > white-collar type careers will require making an occasional > presentation. I would think that BarCamp would be a lower pressure venue. > = The idea is to have a forum that is somewhere between chatting between presentations or at lunch, and presentations. Planned discussion time for a topic (similar to Birds of a Feather gatherings at conferences). The basic principles of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology are: * Whoever comes are the right people * Whatever happens is the only thing that could have * Whenever it starts is the right time * When it's over, it's over In one tech conference that I was at, Bruce Eckel gave a keynote. He's a big proponent of open spaces so there were some at that conference. It worked out like this: alongside the scheduled presentations and break times, open spaces discussions were planned on a posterboard via post-its. Only 3-4 materialized I think and so they were also announced from the microphone. People gathered at the time & location and talked. People freely came and went, and could break off into separate discussions if they wanted. The intimidation of presenting may be a factor for some people, and not only does discussion time alleviate that for those people, but discussions are also a better way for people to engage about certain topics. For us, I'm not sure exactly how it would work out. Having interests written on big nametags should help facilitate discussions, especially impromptu ones that aren't even planned like open spaces. Last year our static/dynamic languages debate time was sort of like a big open spaces meeting. My initial thoughts were that our size (even if we grow) will be small enough that we don't want to distract from the sessions. So we could block out an hour of Open Spaces time, perhaps around 3-4pm when people need a break from sitting and listening to sessions. We could have a schedule wall for Open Spaces with several locations and 15-minute time granularity. Tangent: one session at a time worked well last year; we'll have to see if we get enough attendees to warrant two simultaneous sessions. -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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