From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Fri Aug 8 10:24:11 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Fri Aug 8 10:17:59 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp Update Message-ID: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> --------- THANK YOU --------- First off: we've had a tremendous response this year in terms of registrations. That's particularly cool because we scaled back our marketing a bit (fewer face-to-face meetings with area user groups, fewer posters, etc.). Kudos to everyone who helped spread the word, invited a few friends, and in short, abided by the first rule of BarCamp (you DO talk about BarCamp). ----------------------------- REGISTRATIONS & CANCELLATIONS ----------------------------- We even ended up shuffling some of our rooms around in order to accommodate the larger-than-expected crowd. To that end, we've also decided to cap registrations at 75 people, because that's the max amount that our current facilities can handle. We hit that cap yesterday. Any further registrations will be added to a waiting list, in case of cancellations. HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART: if you're registered and can't come, let dave@brondsema.net know so that others can come. ---------- CARPOOLING ---------- As we get closer, we'd also like to help out with transportation for those that may be doing some driving. To that end, we've started a carpooling page on the BarCamp wiki: http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3CarPooling Feel free to add your location and contact info if you're coming in from outside the Grand Rapids area. Note: you'll need to register an account in order to edit the page. ------------- KEEP IN TOUCH ------------- More details to come as we get closer... until then, you can also follow any announcements via our Twitter feed: http://www.twitter.com/barcampgr Thanks, The Organizers From zach.moazeni at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 13:11:07 2008 From: zach.moazeni at gmail.com (Zach Moazeni) Date: Mon Aug 11 13:05:11 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: First time attender here. Curious on the main format of the talks. From what I gather there were 3 style last year: 1) 5 min lightning 2) 30 min prepared talk 3) OpenSpace Any feel / pulse on what it's going to be like this year? (Lazily determining how much prep I should do) -Zach From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Mon Aug 11 13:29:06 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Mon Aug 11 13:23:19 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> I'm usually busy enough with organizing in the weeks leading up to that I spend most of BarCamp trying to get my Saturday presentation into shape :) Last year I collaborated with another attendee; I think we both gave 30 minute talks, but you could also easily split duties and do two 15 minute talks (maybe on related topics, or where one talk dovetails into the other). In short, we try to make things as flexible as possible (OpenSpaces, 5 minute lightning talks, 15 minute collaborative presentations, 30 minute presentations, 1 hour snoozefests), so the amount of prep really determines on how lazy/inspired you are :-) Kyle >>> Zach Moazeni 8/11/2008 1:11 PM >>> First time attender here. Curious on the main format of the talks. From what I gather there were 3 style last year: 1) 5 min lightning 2) 30 min prepared talk 3) OpenSpace Any feel / pulse on what it's going to be like this year? (Lazily determining how much prep I should do) -Zach _______________________________________________ Barcamp mailing list Barcamp@gr-jug.org http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 16:35:00 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Mon Aug 11 16:30:28 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats [Was: Presentation Formats] In-Reply-To: References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <1218486900.4419.23.camel@linux-nnci.site> On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:11 -0400, Zach Moazeni wrote: > First time attender here. > Curious on the main format of the talks. > From what I gather there were 3 style last year: > 1) 5 min lightning > 2) 30 min prepared talk > 3) OpenSpace > Any feel / pulse on what it's going to be like this year? (Lazily > determining how much prep I should do) I'd be interested in people just fielding requests regarding what they are interested in. I've done numerous presentation/training sessions on a range of topics, any of them that I could refresh and distill to sub-30 minutes; but I'm really at a loss as to which topic(s) to do. And I have no idea about the "demographics" of barcamp - end-users vs. administrators vs. DB-jockeys vs. developers, etc... or everyone is all of the above. :) From jeff at demaagd.com Mon Aug 11 17:47:29 2008 From: jeff at demaagd.com (Jeff DeMaagd) Date: Mon Aug 11 17:41:54 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats [Was: Presentation Formats] In-Reply-To: <1218486900.4419.23.camel@linux-nnci.site> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1218486900.4419.23.camel@linux-nnci.site> Message-ID: <48A0B371.9050801@demaagd.com> Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:11 -0400, Zach Moazeni wrote: >> First time attender here. >> Curious on the main format of the talks. >> From what I gather there were 3 style last year: >> 1) 5 min lightning >> 2) 30 min prepared talk >> 3) OpenSpace >> Any feel / pulse on what it's going to be like this year? (Lazily >> determining how much prep I should do) > > I'd be interested in people just fielding requests regarding what they > are interested in. I've done numerous presentation/training sessions on > a range of topics, any of them that I could refresh and distill to > sub-30 minutes; but I'm really at a loss as to which topic(s) to do. > And I have no idea about the "demographics" of barcamp - end-users vs. > administrators vs. DB-jockeys vs. developers, etc... or everyone is all > of the above. :) I can't answer the demographic question other than a gut impression that it's a good mix of those categories. As for possible sessions: http://barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids Go to "potential sessions" and see which doesn't have a name at the end. If you want to present one, put your name there. If you want to see a presentation on a topic, put one in and see if there are any takers. Jeff From karl at learningjquery.com Mon Aug 11 18:04:26 2008 From: karl at learningjquery.com (Karl Swedberg) Date: Mon Aug 11 17:58:31 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats [Was: Presentation Formats] In-Reply-To: <48A0B371.9050801@demaagd.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1218486900.4419.23.camel@linux-nnci.site> <48A0B371.9050801@demaagd.com> Message-ID: <3CBB463F-CB09-4D9A-BFA2-13E21BAE13CE@learningjquery.com> On Aug 11, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Jeff DeMaagd wrote: > As for possible sessions: > > http://barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids > > Go to "potential sessions" and see which doesn't have a name at the > end. If you want to present one, put your name there. If you want > to see a presentation on a topic, put one in and see if there are > any takers. Hey Jeff, I think your link is pointing to an old BarCamp. 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URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080811/c9c90389/attachment.htm From jeff at demaagd.com Mon Aug 11 18:37:00 2008 From: jeff at demaagd.com (Jeff DeMaagd) Date: Mon Aug 11 18:33:22 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats [Was: Presentation Formats] In-Reply-To: <3CBB463F-CB09-4D9A-BFA2-13E21BAE13CE@learningjquery.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1218486900.4419.23.camel@linux-nnci.site> <48A0B371.9050801@demaagd.com> <3CBB463F-CB09-4D9A-BFA2-13E21BAE13CE@learningjquery.com> Message-ID: <48A0BF0C.2080002@demaagd.com> Karl Swedberg wrote: > On Aug 11, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Jeff DeMaagd wrote: > >> As for possible sessions: >> >> http://barcamp.org/BarCampGrandRapids >> >> Go to "potential sessions" and see which doesn't have a name at the >> end. If you want to present one, put your name there. If you want to >> see a presentation on a topic, put one in and see if there are any takers. > > Hey Jeff, > > I think your link is pointing to an old BarCamp. The 2008 one is here: > > http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 > > Or am I mistaken? > > --Karl You're right, I just opened a bookmark without actually reading the page. Same thing applies to the corrected page link. Jeff From jsn.link at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 22:27:46 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Mon Aug 11 22:21:47 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> All... Like Zach, I am new to BarCamp Grand Rapids and also have a few questions. I spent some time on various sites familiarizing myself with the format (or unformat) of BarCamp. I found information about (1) 30 minute prepared talk and (2) OpenSpace talks. I do not find any information on 5 minute lightning talks. Where do lightning talks slip into the picture and what is the format? Another question centers around an observation. Most of the proposed topics appear to concern application development or/and web development. Are the topics an artifact of a community composed mostly of application developers? Not that this is wrong, simply an observation seeking some understanding and background. And finally, my real question. Since BarCamp is about sharing of information *and* the ideal newcommer presents something, is there room for a presentation that does not involve a programming language? I am seriously considering a talk that could benefit application developers, database administrators, server administrators and network administrators. I haven't figured out a title yet but would appreciate some initial feedback before spending a lot of time on it. The talk I am considering would involve: 1. netstat for windows and linux 2. hping or nmap 3. and maybe (remotely) tcpdump Thank you in advance for you time and insights. Jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080811/15833807/= attachment.htm From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 08:00:10 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Tue Aug 12 07:55:38 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> > Like Zach, I am new to BarCamp Grand Rapids and also have a few > questions. > I spent some time on various sites familiarizing myself with the > format (or unformat) of BarCamp. I found information about (1) 30 > minute prepared talk and (2) OpenSpace talks. I do not find any > information on 5 minute lightning talks. Where do lightning talks > slip into the picture and what is the format? Just me, but it is hard to imagine much knowledge transfer in 5-minutes, but I could be wrong. Will be interesting to see. > Another question centers around an observation. Most of the proposed > topics appear to concern application development or/and web > development. Are the topics an artifact of a community composed > mostly of application developers? Not that this is wrong, simply an > observation seeking some understanding and background. I noticed the same thing. But I've been presenting, etc... on technology and Open Source things for almost ten years and web-development stuff always seem to be over-represented on topic lists, so I wouldn't over-read much into to. Part of the reason for that is (I think) that there are 5,000 different "frameworks" for doing the same thing. :) Web developers *love* to re-invent the wheel and most also loath reading documentation [making re-using other people's stuff pretty difficult]. > And finally, my real question. Since BarCamp is about sharing of > information and the ideal newcommer presents something, is there room > for a presentation that does not involve a programming language? I am > seriously considering a talk that could benefit application > developers, database administrators, server administrators and network > administrators. Please don't hesitate. Personally I'm always skeptical of 'programming language' presentations because the topic is so immensely broad and also overlaps [usually] with 95% of every other programming language. I've seen several dozen such presentations and there are only two I remember "fondly", most were almost painful. A programming-language pitch/intro is just an extremely hard thing to do well. > I haven't figured out a title yet but would appreciate some initial > feedback before spending a lot of time on it. > The talk I am considering would involve: > 1. netstat for windows and linux > 2. hping or nmap > 3. and maybe (remotely) tcpdump > Thank you in advance for you time and insights. Sounds potentially interesting. Even though I've been using those tools for a long time I'm sure there are things I don't know. And including use of the tools on Windows is something I've never seen. Anything you've been wondering about lately? From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue Aug 12 08:14:08 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue Aug 12 08:08:14 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> > Where do lightning talks slip into the picture and what is > the format? Someone usually reserves a 30 minute slot for lightning talks, so that 30 minute slot gets broken up into six 5 minute slots and then anyone can sign up for one of those six slots. Pretty much take the BarCamp concept and just shrink the presentation even further. > Are the topics an artifact of a community composed mostly of > application developers? Probably. The topics you see on the page are likely due to who's taken the time to edit the page. I've seen additional non-developer topics tossed around in Twitter-land: http://snurl.com/3f9du http://snurl.com/3f9dl > is there room for a presentation that does not involve a > programming language? Definitely. Last year we had presentations from Google on Linux and maybe some other sysadmin topics (can't remember). A colleague and I presented on CSS, typography, and grid-based layouts. This year I'm hoping to have a discussion about the best video sharing site (YouTube vs. Vimeo vs. whoever else) Non-programming presentations are welcomed and encouraged. Kyle From jsn.link at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 10:10:50 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:04:53 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> Message-ID: <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> Thank you Adam for your response. I pretty much counted on some folks attending BarCamp would be familiar with these tools, but not all. Sometimes it is good to refresh the basics. Aside from that, it is an area that I've struggled with and wish to provide something as *part of the solution* and not *part of the problem*. More to the point, I believe it is possible break down some long-standing barriers. - Software Developer says the network is at fault. - Network Guys say the server is at fault. - Server Folks say the network firewall is at fault. - Security Guru says it is a combination of all of them. Anything I've been wondering about lately? Lots of things. : ) - Practical introduction to XSL - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) (LifeRay etc.) - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) (Zenoss etc.) - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM etc.) I'll stop there. Jason On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams < adamtaunowilliams@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Like Zach, I am new to BarCamp Grand Rapids and also have a few > > questions. > > I spent some time on various sites familiarizing myself with the > > format (or unformat) of BarCamp. I found information about (1) 30 > > minute prepared talk and (2) OpenSpace talks. I do not find any > > information on 5 minute lightning talks. Where do lightning talks > > slip into the picture and what is the format? > > Just me, but it is hard to imagine much knowledge transfer in 5-minutes, > but I could be wrong. Will be interesting to see. > > > Another question centers around an observation. Most of the proposed > > topics appear to concern application development or/and web > > development. Are the topics an artifact of a community composed > > mostly of application developers? Not that this is wrong, simply an > > observation seeking some understanding and background. > > I noticed the same thing. But I've been presenting, etc... on > technology and Open Source things for almost ten years and > web-development stuff always seem to be over-represented on topic lists, > so I wouldn't over-read much into to. > > Part of the reason for that is (I think) that there are 5,000 different > "frameworks" for doing the same thing. :) Web developers *love* to > re-invent the wheel and most also loath reading documentation [making > re-using other people's stuff pretty difficult]. > > > And finally, my real question. Since BarCamp is about sharing of > > information and the ideal newcommer presents something, is there room > > for a presentation that does not involve a programming language? I am > > seriously considering a talk that could benefit application > > developers, database administrators, server administrators and network > > administrators. > > Please don't hesitate. Personally I'm always skeptical of 'programming > language' presentations because the topic is so immensely broad and also > overlaps [usually] with 95% of every other programming language. I've > seen several dozen such presentations and there are only two I remember > "fondly", most were almost painful. A programming-language pitch/intro > is just an extremely hard thing to do well. > > > I haven't figured out a title yet but would appreciate some initial > > feedback before spending a lot of time on it. > > The talk I am considering would involve: > > 1. netstat for windows and linux > > 2. hping or nmap > > 3. and maybe (remotely) tcpdump > > Thank you in advance for you time and insights. > > Sounds potentially interesting. Even though I've been using those tools > for a long time I'm sure there are things I don't know. And including > use of the tools on Windows is something I've never seen. > > Anything you've been wondering about lately? > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > -- = "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain." - unknown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/2bbec04b/= attachment.htm From jsn.link at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 10:13:14 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:07:15 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <1341f6340808120713g47c90032j9e1f1ea97de40aca@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Kyle for the response. Looks like I have some work to do this week! lol On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Kyle Adams wrote: > > Where do lightning talks slip into the picture and what is > > the format? > > Someone usually reserves a 30 minute slot for lightning talks, so that 30 > minute slot gets broken up into six 5 minute slots and then anyone can si= gn > up for one of those six slots. Pretty much take the BarCamp concept and > just shrink the presentation even further. > > > Are the topics an artifact of a community composed mostly of > > application developers? > > Probably. The topics you see on the page are likely due to who's taken t= he > time to edit the page. I've seen additional non-developer topics tossed > around in Twitter-land: > > http://snurl.com/3f9du > > http://snurl.com/3f9dl > > > is there room for a presentation that does not involve a > > programming language? > > Definitely. Last year we had presentations from Google on Linux and maybe > some other sysadmin topics (can't remember). A colleague and I presented= on > CSS, typography, and grid-based layouts. This year I'm hoping to have a > discussion about the best video sharing site (YouTube vs. Vimeo vs. whoev= er > else) Non-programming presentations are welcomed and encouraged. > > Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > -- = "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain." - unknown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/70ef60ae/= attachment.htm From zach.dennis at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 10:13:57 2008 From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:07:56 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> Message-ID: <85d99afe0808120713i995042bp7bbd46e359bcbb41@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >> Like Zach, I am new to BarCamp Grand Rapids and also have a few >> questions. >> I spent some time on various sites familiarizing myself with the >> format (or unformat) of BarCamp. I found information about (1) 30 >> minute prepared talk and (2) OpenSpace talks. I do not find any >> information on 5 minute lightning talks. Where do lightning talks >> slip into the picture and what is the format? > > Just me, but it is hard to imagine much knowledge transfer in 5-minutes, > but I could be wrong. Will be interesting to see. > >> Another question centers around an observation. Most of the proposed >> topics appear to concern application development or/and web >> development. Are the topics an artifact of a community composed >> mostly of application developers? Not that this is wrong, simply an >> observation seeking some understanding and background. > > I noticed the same thing. But I've been presenting, etc... on > technology and Open Source things for almost ten years and > web-development stuff always seem to be over-represented on topic lists, > so I wouldn't over-read much into to. > > Part of the reason for that is (I think) that there are 5,000 different > "frameworks" for doing the same thing. :) Web developers *love* to > re-invent the wheel and most also loath reading documentation [making > re-using other people's stuff pretty difficult]. I just loath using crappy frameworks, libraries and tool sets. :) -- Zach Dennis http://www.continuousthinking.com http://www.mutuallyhuman.com From dave at coefficientmedia.com Tue Aug 12 10:47:26 2008 From: dave at coefficientmedia.com (David Buchanan) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:41:26 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Recording BarCampGR3 Message-ID: <4600.76.20.153.176.1218552446.squirrel@webmail.coefficientmedia.com> Hi everyone, I will be attending BarCamp GR3 and am super excited! My company Coefficient Media is sponsoring the event and recording the sessions. I know the sessions will all be different so I am just letting you all know we will be there. We will be recording as much as we can and then posting the sessions online for free as a podcast and a zip file. If you are speaking we would like to record it. Look for a Coefficient Media person and we will mic you up. If we are not there then just clip it on if it has a clip or start talking. See you all this Friday! Dave Buchanan www.coefficientmedia.com dave@coefficientmedia.com www.linkedin.com/in/davidjbuchanan www.twitter.com/coefficient www.twitter.com/audiocollective From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 11:08:53 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Tue Aug 12 11:04:22 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1218553733.6086.20.camel@linux-nnci.site> > I pretty much counted on some folks attending BarCamp would be > familiar with these tools, but not all. Sometimes it is good to > refresh the basics. Aside from that, it is an area that I've > struggled with and wish to provide something as part of the solution > and not part of the problem. Yep. It is easy to forget many of the basics without refreshing. > More to the point, I believe it is possible break down some > long-standing barriers. > * Software Developer says the network is at fault. > * Network Guys say the server is at fault. > * Server Folks say the network firewall is at fault. Nah! That never happens! :) Since I'm both the network and the server guy, and half a developer, I spend allot of time very conflicted. > * Security Guru says it is a combination of all of them. Ugh, I've found "Security Guru" to be synonymous with "pompous gas bag who like to read IT trade journals". > Anything I've been wondering about lately? Lots of things. : ) > * Practical introduction to XSL I can only fumble around with XSL. > * Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) > (LifeRay etc.) A presentation on LifeRay or one of the other Open Source Java CMSs would be interesting to me. Currently I'm using Drupal and looking for an escape trajectory. > * Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) > (Zenoss etc.) We run OpenNMS so I might be able to do that. > * Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems > (OSSIM etc.) No experience at all. From sdp at i2k.com Tue Aug 12 11:24:31 2008 From: sdp at i2k.com (steve poling) Date: Tue Aug 12 11:18:33 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> Message-ID: <48A1AB2F.5060700@i2k.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/d226463e/attachment.htm From sdp at i2k.com Tue Aug 12 11:28:22 2008 From: sdp at i2k.com (steve poling) Date: Tue Aug 12 11:22:23 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/fd8a9080/attachment.htm From zach.moazeni at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 13:17:45 2008 From: zach.moazeni at gmail.com (Zach Moazeni) Date: Tue Aug 12 13:11:48 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Topic: Using Mocks to help Unit Test Code (language agnostic) Message-ID: <7F837173-B2A3-41CC-A64B-06287112F71D@gmail.com> Hey everyone, I've twittered this, ( http://twitter.com/zedder02/statuses/ 885255495 ), but I wanted to resend through here. I'm planning on talking about using Mocks to help unit test code. I'm planning on the presentation to be language agnostic, though code samples will be done via Pseudo, Ruby, and Java. I just wanted to get a pulse from those attending if they have anything specific they'd like me to address? Or other things that they may have heard addressed hundreds of times, and want something different. I'm completely up for suggestions on things to shy away / lean towards in the talk. I'm also hoping that it can be split up between presentation, and conversation. I hate just sitting watching 1 person talk, and there are always topics that crop up during the presentation. Sometimes people gain as much (if not more) from the conversations as they do from the presentation itself. -Zach From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue Aug 12 13:39:39 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue Aug 12 13:33:49 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com><48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> Message-ID: <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> > Just me, but it is hard to imagine much knowledge transfer > in 5-minutes, but I could be wrong. Think of lightning talks less as knowledge transfer, and more as a sample to whet your appetite. They are the presentation equivalent of those little sample spoons/cups at ice cream places. If you find a flavor you like, you can dig in with the presenter after the session. And yeah, everything that Steve said :-) > 1 one-minute interval between them Good point; we probably need to plan short breaks for shuffling around the speakers in between each session. > And the lightning moderator needs to have a GOOD timer with a loud bell. We're going to have egg timers in each room at BarCamp. Because sometimes people run over the 30 minute limit :-) Kyle From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue Aug 12 13:50:36 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue Aug 12 13:44:42 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> ==== - Practical introduction to XSL - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) (LifeRay etc.) - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) (Zenoss etc.) - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM etc.) ==== I've added these to the Possible Topics section at http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 ; thanks from throwing those ideas out Jason! Kyle From jeff at demaagd.com Tue Aug 12 14:16:32 2008 From: jeff at demaagd.com (Jeff DeMaagd) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:10:57 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com><48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> Kyle Adams wrote: >> And the lightning moderator needs to have a GOOD timer with a loud bell. > > We're going to have egg timers in each room at BarCamp. Because sometimes people run over the 30 minute limit :-) Was time really a problem? If it's not a problem, I don't see the point in this. I would think that a strict schedule goes against the "unconference" concept. Jeff From andydragt at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 14:22:00 2008 From: andydragt at gmail.com (Andy Dragt) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:16:02 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: Just built myself an iPhone webapp for accessing the Rapid schedules: http://bus.andydragt.com/rapid.html Seems pretty basic but maybe there'd be some interest in a 5min lightening pres on using the iUi library to build very quick iphone webapps? Andy On Aug 12, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: > ==== > - Practical introduction to XSL > - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) > (LifeRay > etc.) > - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) > (Zenoss > etc.) > - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM > etc.) > ==== > > I've added these to the Possible Topics section at http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 > ; thanks from throwing those ideas out Jason! > > Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp From sdp at i2k.com Tue Aug 12 14:40:58 2008 From: sdp at i2k.com (steve poling) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:35:38 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Topic: Using Mocks to help Unit Test Code (language agnostic) In-Reply-To: <7F837173-B2A3-41CC-A64B-06287112F71D@gmail.com> References: <7F837173-B2A3-41CC-A64B-06287112F71D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A1D93A.9000700@i2k.com> I'm very anxious to hear anything you might have to say about Mocks. i'd love to hear someone talk about mocking WPF Zach Moazeni wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I've twittered this, ( http://twitter.com/zedder02/statuses/885255495 > ), but I wanted to resend through here. I'm planning on talking about > using Mocks to help unit test code. I'm planning on the presentation > to be language agnostic, though code samples will be done via Pseudo, > Ruby, and Java. > > I just wanted to get a pulse from those attending if they have > anything specific they'd like me to address? Or other things that they > may have heard addressed hundreds of times, and want something different. > > I'm completely up for suggestions on things to shy away / lean towards > in the talk. I'm also hoping that it can be split up between > presentation, and conversation. I hate just sitting watching 1 person > talk, and there are always topics that crop up during the > presentation. Sometimes people gain as much (if not more) from the > conversations as they do from the presentation itself. > > -Zach > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > From karl at learningjquery.com Tue Aug 12 14:42:06 2008 From: karl at learningjquery.com (Karl Swedberg) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:36:11 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <197186EF-86BD-4CDE-876F-0F910F9C168E@learningjquery.com> sounds great to me! Do it. :) --Karl ____________ Karl Swedberg www.learningjquery.com www.englishrules.com On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Andy Dragt wrote: > Just built myself an iPhone webapp for accessing the Rapid > schedules: http://bus.andydragt.com/rapid.html > > Seems pretty basic but maybe there'd be some interest in a 5min > lightening pres on using the iUi library to build very quick iphone > webapps? > > Andy > > > On Aug 12, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: > >> ==== >> - Practical introduction to XSL >> - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) >> (LifeRay >> etc.) >> - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) >> (Zenoss >> etc.) >> - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM >> etc.) >> ==== >> >> I've added these to the Possible Topics section at http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 >> ; thanks from throwing those ideas out Jason! >> >> Kyle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barcamp mailing list >> Barcamp@gr-jug.org >> http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/3f8edc50/attachment.htm From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue Aug 12 14:52:59 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:47:09 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <197186EF-86BD-4CDE-876F-0F910F9C168E@learningjquery.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <197186EF-86BD-4CDE-876F-0F910F9C168E@learningjquery.com> Message-ID: <48A1A3CB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> > sounds great to me! Do it. :) Ditto. From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 14:56:06 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:51:31 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Topic: Using Mocks to help Unit Test Code (language agnostic) In-Reply-To: <48A1D93A.9000700@i2k.com> References: <7F837173-B2A3-41CC-A64B-06287112F71D@gmail.com> <48A1D93A.9000700@i2k.com> Message-ID: <1218567366.4896.21.camel@linux-nnci.site> On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 14:40 -0400, steve poling wrote: > I'm very anxious to hear anything you might have to say about Mocks. > i'd love to hear someone talk about mocking WPF Yea! I do most of my development in Mono/.Net Gtk#. I haven't done any unit testing and I'm certainly interested in learning. From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Tue Aug 12 15:01:07 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Tue Aug 12 14:55:14 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com><48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com><48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> Message-ID: <48A1A5B3.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> > Was time really a problem? Yes, time has been a problem, particularly when the session running over is interfering with another presentation. I wouldn't see it as going against the "unconference" concept: 7th Rule: Presentations will go on as long as they have to or until they run into another presentation slot. The egg timers as a tool for helping presenters abide by the last part of that rule. I suspect their use will be entirely up to each presenter. Kyle From jsn.link at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 15:33:47 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Tue Aug 12 15:27:48 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <1341f6340808121233i70323999y6e20b0fca5dd2fc0@mail.gmail.com> You are welcome. I am great for ideas. Solutions . . . well . . . : ) On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: > =3D=3D=3D=3D > - Practical introduction to XSL > - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) (LifeRay > etc.) > - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) (Zenoss > etc.) > - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM etc.) > =3D=3D=3D=3D > > I've added these to the Possible Topics section at > http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 ; thanks from throwing those > ideas out Jason! > > Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > -- = "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain." - unknown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/4fa1e03d/= attachment.htm From jasonporritt at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 15:40:18 2008 From: jasonporritt at gmail.com (Jason Porritt) Date: Tue Aug 12 15:34:18 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808121233i70323999y6e20b0fca5dd2fc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <1218542410.29029.10.camel@linux-nnci.site> <1341f6340808120710r5043319cn74a20fc5b3ac828a@mail.gmail.com> <48A1952C.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808121233i70323999y6e20b0fca5dd2fc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5cb4d9a00808121240g17130344h41350f53b3a0215e@mail.gmail.com> Yes, do it! Lightning talks always leave me with a huge list of interesting reading for a later date. As for the timers, even an unconference requires some organization :) Of course, conversations are free to spill out into hallways and any of the open spaces, but having a set time limit ensures we *include* more people and topics instead of *exclude* those who happen to follow particularly enthralling or long-winded presenters. --Jason Porritt On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Jason Link wrote: > You are welcome. I am great for ideas. Solutions . . . well . . . : ) > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Kyle Adams wrote: >> >> ==== >> - Practical introduction to XSL >> - Experiences with Open Source Content Management Systems (CMS) (LifeRay >> etc.) >> - Experiences with Open Source Network Management Systems (NMS) (Zenoss >> etc.) >> - Experiences with Open Source Security Management Systems (OSSIM etc.) >> ==== >> >> I've added these to the Possible Topics section at >> http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3 ; thanks from throwing those >> ideas out Jason! >> >> Kyle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barcamp mailing list >> Barcamp@gr-jug.org >> http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > > > > -- > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to > dance in the rain." - unknown > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > > From carl at carltm.com Tue Aug 12 18:06:09 2008 From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller) Date: Tue Aug 12 18:00:10 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com><48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> Message-ID: <33250.216.144.203.250.1218578769.squirrel@www.carltm.com> Jeff DeMaagd wrote: > Was time really a problem? If it's not a problem, I don't see the point > in this. I would think that a strict schedule goes against the > "unconference" concept. I hope people try to stay on time. If there are two good sessions scheduled at the same time, I'll be disappointed if I pick one and discover that it's delayed because someone else went overtime. c From jsn.link at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 22:08:41 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Tue Aug 12 22:02:41 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <33250.216.144.203.250.1218578769.squirrel@www.carltm.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> <33250.216.144.203.250.1218578769.squirrel@www.carltm.com> Message-ID: <1341f6340808121908y7d530298q8545b884bb14a1b6@mail.gmail.com> A good friend of mine recently demonstrated body language she's thought about using for long winded speakers. 1. Smile pleasantly. 2. With your right hand, reach for your left ear. 3. In a slicing motion, move your right hand from ear to ear. 4. Repeat as necessary. : ) On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Carl T. Miller wrote: > Jeff DeMaagd wrote: > > Was time really a problem? If it's not a problem, I don't see the point > > in this. I would think that a strict schedule goes against the > > "unconference" concept. > > I hope people try to stay on time. If there are two > good sessions scheduled at the same time, I'll be > disappointed if I pick one and discover that it's > delayed because someone else went overtime. > > c > > > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > -- = "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain." - unknown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080812/c161a7b6/= attachment.htm From jsn.link at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 20:05:43 2008 From: jsn.link at gmail.com (Jason Link) Date: Wed Aug 13 19:59:44 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Presentation Formats In-Reply-To: <1341f6340808121908y7d530298q8545b884bb14a1b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <489C1ECB.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A03EA2.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <1341f6340808111927p4497ad68j4df8b24ec0a7b3fe@mail.gmail.com> <48A14650.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1AC16.9050306@i2k.com> <48A1929B.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <48A1D380.3040200@demaagd.com> <33250.216.144.203.250.1218578769.squirrel@www.carltm.com> <1341f6340808121908y7d530298q8545b884bb14a1b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1341f6340808131705h56e5208cn22b8995abcd8fee3@mail.gmail.com> A thought occurred to me which lead to assumption and we all know what happens when you assume . . . What facilities will be available for BarCamp3 with regards to presentations etc.? 1. Firewood for smoke signals? 2. Sparklers for mime presentations at dark? 3. Over head projectors with VGA =3D> laptop connections? 4. 1200 baud modem broadband? 5. etc... I looked on the wiki and was not able to locate said information / clarification. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Jason Link wrote: > A good friend of mine recently demonstrated body language she's thought > about using for long winded speakers. > 1. Smile pleasantly. > 2. With your right hand, reach for your left ear. > 3. In a slicing motion, move your right hand from ear to ear. > 4. Repeat as necessary. > > : ) > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Carl T. Miller wrote: > >> Jeff DeMaagd wrote: >> > Was time really a problem? If it's not a problem, I don't see the poi= nt >> > in this. I would think that a strict schedule goes against the >> > "unconference" concept. >> >> I hope people try to stay on time. If there are two >> good sessions scheduled at the same time, I'll be >> disappointed if I pick one and discover that it's >> delayed because someone else went overtime. >> >> c >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barcamp mailing list >> Barcamp@gr-jug.org >> http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp >> > > > > -- > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to > dance in the rain." - unknown > -- = "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain." - unknown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jason Link wrote: > A thought occurred to me which lead to assumption and we all know what > happens when you assume . . . > = > What facilities will be available for BarCamp3 with regards to > presentations etc.? > 1. Firewood for smoke signals? > 2. Sparklers for mime presentations at dark? > 3. Over head projectors with VGA =3D> laptop connections? > 4. 1200 baud modem broadband? > 5. etc... = > = > I looked on the wiki and was not able to locate said information / > clarification. > = > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Jason Link > wrote: > = > A good friend of mine recently demonstrated body language she's > thought about using for long winded speakers. = > 1. Smile pleasantly. > 2. With your right hand, reach for your left ear. > 3. In a slicing motion, move your right hand from ear to ear. > 4. Repeat as necessary. > = > : ) > = > = > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Carl T. Miller > wrote: > = > Jeff DeMaagd wrote: > > Was time really a problem? If it's not a problem, I don't see > the point > > in this. I would think that a strict schedule goes against the > > "unconference" concept. > = > I hope people try to stay on time. If there are two > good sessions scheduled at the same time, I'll be > disappointed if I pick one and discover that it's > delayed because someone else went overtime. > = > c > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp > = > = > = > = > -- = > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning > to dance in the rain." - unknown > = > = > = > = > -- = > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to > dance in the rain." - unknown > = > = > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > = > _______________________________________________ > Barcamp mailing list > Barcamp@gr-jug.org > http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp -- = Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming <>< -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See also the map at http://barcamp.org/f/barcampgrandrapids-map.png and directions to the campus at http://www.calvin.edu/map/directions.htm The basic schedule is at http://barcampgr.org/wiki/BarCampGrandRapids3Schedule We'll fill out a detailed schedule of presentation & discussion slots when we're there. Plan on arriving between 5-6pm Friday and 9-10am Saturday. We'll provide food & drinks for Fri dinner, Sat breakfast, Sat lunch, and snacks. For those planning on staying on-campus overnight, bring a sleeping bag and pad. We'll just be on the floors in the rooms. There are bathrooms, but no showers, sorry. If you have a van or something you want to sleep in in the parking lot, that's fine too but the doors to the building will be locked during the night. There are some power outlets, but if several people can bring power strips that will help. We also need a few more people to bring wireless access points for the weekend. Let me know if you can bring one. And thanks to our sponsors for making the whole thing possible: Calvin College, GFS, Atomic Object, Ryma, Elevator Up, SageTech, CIG JAN Products, Subway, Biggby and Coeffecient Media. See you soon, The BarCamp Grand Rapids organizing team -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 890 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080814/90ea4dbe= /signature.pgp From carl at carltm.com Fri Aug 15 05:50:47 2008 From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller) Date: Fri Aug 15 05:44:45 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Details for BarCamp In-Reply-To: <48A4ECD3.5050808@brondsema.net> References: <48A4ECD3.5050808@brondsema.net> Message-ID: <44078.216.144.203.250.1218793847.squirrel@www.carltm.com> Dave Brondsema wrote: > There are some power outlets, but if several people can bring power > strips that will help. We also need a few more people to bring wireless > access points for the weekend. Let me know if you can bring one. I'll bring an AP. c From robertjklein1 at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 13:50:00 2008 From: robertjklein1 at gmail.com (Robert Klein) Date: Fri Aug 15 13:43:59 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp Grand Rapids Message-ID: <49e25d210808151050j5b10ad45wd5b7187edf945ac4@mail.gmail.com> Last minute, unexpected change in plans. I'm not able to attend BC GR. Hopefully this will open a slot for another camper. Please keep me on all updates, info, etc. Thanks, Bob Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080815/4001655a/= attachment.htm From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Mon Aug 18 07:19:51 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Mon Aug 18 07:13:55 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Found: Mac VGA Converter Message-ID: <48A92297.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> We found an Apple VGA converter while cleaning up. Anyone missing theirs? Shoot me an e-mail, kyle.adams@gfs.com. Kyle From zach.dennis at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 09:34:28 2008 From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis) Date: Mon Aug 18 09:28:25 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Thanks for a great barcamp Message-ID: <85d99afe0808180634u29f252ednf32ec34e36676e4c@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to the organizers, sponsors and the attendees for a great BarCamp this year. I had a great time this year both in the sessions and in the hallways, -- Zach Dennis http://www.continuousthinking.com http://www.mutuallyhuman.com From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 09:43:48 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Mon Aug 18 09:39:45 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Thanks for a great barcamp In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0808180634u29f252ednf32ec34e36676e4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <85d99afe0808180634u29f252ednf32ec34e36676e4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1219067028.7363.2.camel@linux-nnci.site> On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 09:34 -0400, Zach Dennis wrote: > Thanks to the organizers, sponsors and the attendees for a great > BarCamp this year. I had a great time this year both in the sessions > and in the hallways, Ditto, it was a very nice event and I had a great time. My only two recommendations - 1.) Maybe schedule just a brief amount of time between the sessions. Just a few minutes would be good. 2.) I totally missed the suggestion / request board as it was over to the side. Didn't see it till I was leaving. And someone requested a presentation on Objective-C; I so would have done that. -- Consonance: an Open Source .NET OpenGroupware client. Contact:awilliam@whitemiceconsulting.com http://freshmeat.net/projects/consonance/ From erickson.adam.m at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 12:46:10 2008 From: erickson.adam.m at gmail.com (Adam M. Erickson) Date: Mon Aug 18 12:40:07 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Re: Barcamp Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <20080818160003.D78324641CF@gr-jug> References: <20080818160003.D78324641CF@gr-jug> Message-ID: <7cd69fdf0808180946w59edf2b2obb41ddf31102a6c2@mail.gmail.com> > 2.) I totally missed the suggestion / request board as it was over to > the side. Didn't see it till I was leaving. Yep, I did not see it until leaving. Other than that it was a great experience. First conference on information technology I have ever attended and though it was excellent. I'm still trying to absorb everything I took notes on, thank you. Made a few new friends, matched faces with names from friends on some of the mailing lists and learned something new. I wish I could do that every day. -- Regards, Adam M. Erickson "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. -Isaac Newton" From adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 13:29:55 2008 From: adamtaunowilliams at gmail.com (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Mon Aug 18 13:25:32 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] "Data Retention w/Open Source Software" Presentation Message-ID: <1219080595.4400.2.camel@linux-nnci.site> I've posted my "Data Retention w/Open Source Software" presentation. As I mentioned in the presentation, doing anything related to enforcing Data Retention w/Open Source is a pretty lonely affair. If anyone has to tackle any related issues or uncovers some techniques (or problems) I'd really like to know. -- Consonance: an Open Source .NET OpenGroupware client. Contact:awilliam@whitemiceconsulting.com http://freshmeat.net/projects/consonance/ From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Aug 18 14:15:35 2008 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon Aug 18 14:05:03 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp Group on LinkedIn Message-ID: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A0FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Hello campers, There is a new BarCamp Grand Rapids group on LinkedIn. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois@n-vint.com "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information that is protected under state and/or federal law. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by fax or email and delete this message. 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DuBois/ > > *N-VINT, Inc.* > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > *866-337-2686* Direct > > /AOL IM: *CaseyNVINT*/ > > cdubois@n-vint.com *//* > > > > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used > when we created them." > > - Albert Einstein > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential > information that is protected under state and/or federal law. If you > received this message in error, please notify the sender by fax or > email and delete this message. Please note that e-mails are > susceptible to change and we shall not be responsible or liable for > the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in > this e-mail, any delay in its receipt or damage to your systems. 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Let's keep in touch! B. Mike Perico Field Marketing Specialist Tel: 512.992.0586 Mobile: 512.785.5653 www.rymatech.com Ryma Technology Solutions Anticipate . Cultivate . Innovate Visit the Product Management community blog From: barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org [mailto:barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org] On Behalf Of Casey DuBois Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:16 PM To: barcamp@gr-jug.org Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp Group on LinkedIn Hello campers, There is a new BarCamp Grand Rapids group on LinkedIn. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois@n-vint.com "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein _____ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information that is protected under state and/or federal law. 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Do you have those pictures by > any chance? Hope you are doing well. Let's keep in touch! > > > > B. Mike Perico > > Field Marketing Specialist > > Tel: 512.992.0586 > > Mobile: 512.785.5653 > > www.rymatech.com > > > > > > Ryma Technology Solutions > > Anticipate ? Cultivate ? Innovate > > > > Visit the Product Management community blog > > > > > > > > > > From: barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org [mailto:barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org] On > Behalf Of Casey DuBois > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:16 PM > To: barcamp@gr-jug.org > Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp Group on LinkedIn > > > > Hello campers, > > > > There is a new BarCamp Grand Rapids group on LinkedIn. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois@n-vint.com > > > > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we > created them." > > - Albert Einstein > > > > > > ________________________________ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information > that is protected under state and/or federal law. If you received this > message in error, please notify the sender by fax or email and delete this > message. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change and we shall not > be responsible or liable for the proper and complete transmission of the > information contained in this e-mail, any delay in its receipt or damage to > your systems. We do not guarantee that the integrity of this e-mail has been > maintained or that this e-mail is free of viruses, interception or > interference. 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Bookmark the following link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseydubois/ I was only able to load a portion of the pictures and will load more in Sept and Oct so keep checking the link. See Ya.... Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois@n-vint.com "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information that is protected under state and/or federal law. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by fax or email and delete this message. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change and we shall not be responsible or liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail, any delay in its receipt or damage to your systems. 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URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080821/bba94c47/attachment.htm From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Thu Aug 21 14:24:06 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Thu Aug 21 14:18:09 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp3 Pictures In-Reply-To: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A88A@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A88A@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> I've created a BarCamp GR group for pooling photos from any and all Flickr folks: http://www.flickr.com/groups/barcampgr/ Should be open for anyone to join. Kyle From b.weber at TechSmith.com Thu Aug 21 14:28:03 2008 From: b.weber at TechSmith.com (Weber, Betsy) Date: Thu Aug 21 14:22:02 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp3 Pictures In-Reply-To: <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A88A@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <280EF808D3EEAE4F891192DBD0098CD60769507BAC@exchmbx01.techsmith.com> Fab! I'll start adding pics to the Flickr pool. I left my notes at home with names for tagging. So, feel free to add tags and notes to my pics. I posted a video from Laura Bergells talk here - http://www.screencast.com/t/CniKSvmUGr The audio and lighting aren't the best. My apologies... Had a fab time! Not sure if I can wait a whole year for the next one! :-) Sincerely, Betsy Weber, Chief Evangelist TechSmith Corporation www.techsmith.com email: b.weber@techsmith.com twitter: @betsyweber c: 517.410.0030 -----Original Message----- From: barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org [mailto:barcamp-bounces@gr-jug.org] On Behalf Of Kyle Adams Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:24 PM To: barcamp@gr-jug.org Subject: Re: [Barcamp] BarCamp3 Pictures I've created a BarCamp GR group for pooling photos from any and all Flickr folks: http://www.flickr.com/groups/barcampgr/ Should be open for anyone to join. Kyle _______________________________________________ Barcamp mailing list Barcamp@gr-jug.org http://gr-jug.org/mailman/listinfo/barcamp From Kyle.Adams at gfs.com Thu Aug 21 15:30:34 2008 From: Kyle.Adams at gfs.com (Kyle Adams) Date: Thu Aug 21 15:24:39 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] BarCamp3 Pictures In-Reply-To: <280EF808D3EEAE4F891192DBD0098CD60769507BAC@exchmbx01.techsmith.com> References: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A88A@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> <280EF808D3EEAE4F891192DBD0098CD60769507BAC@exchmbx01.techsmith.com> Message-ID: <48AD8A1A.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> > I left my notes at home with names for tagging. Our official tag was: barcampgrandrapids3 But I'd recommend also tagging as: barcamp grandrapids barcampgr Hopefully our tagging will be a little more homogenous next year :-) Kyle From cdemyanovich at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 21:47:27 2008 From: cdemyanovich at gmail.com (Craig Demyanovich) Date: Thu Aug 21 21:41:24 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Thanks for a great barcamp In-Reply-To: <1219067028.7363.2.camel@linux-nnci.site> References: <85d99afe0808180634u29f252ednf32ec34e36676e4c@mail.gmail.com> <1219067028.7363.2.camel@linux-nnci.site> Message-ID: <61c885db0808211847p614c78fh65a01157da2f35cd@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Adam Tauno Williams < adamtaunowilliams@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 09:34 -0400, Zach Dennis wrote: > > Thanks to the organizers, sponsors and the attendees for a great > > BarCamp this year. I had a great time this year both in the sessions > > and in the hallways, > > Ditto, it was a very nice event and I had a great time. Thirded. :-) > My only two recommendations - > 1.) Maybe schedule just a brief amount of time between the sessions. > Just a few minutes would be good. Agreed. > 2.) I totally missed the suggestion / request board as it was over to > the side. Didn't see it till I was leaving. And someone requested a > presentation on Objective-C; I so would have done that. I would've liked to attend that presentation. I've spent a little time learning Objective-C, and I'd like to like it more. Anyway, it was my first BarCamp GR, but it won't be my last. Great job all. Craig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gr-jug.org/pipermail/barcamp/attachments/20080821/0c51ae74/= attachment.htm From pericom at rymatech.com Tue Aug 26 15:35:48 2008 From: pericom at rymatech.com (Mike Perico) Date: Tue Aug 26 15:29:40 2008 Subject: [Barcamp] Hello from Austin, TX In-Reply-To: <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> References: <1BAA77C18160E14CBDF66C8369EDAFDB1B4574A88A@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <48AD7A86.2F65.0052.0@gfs.com> Message-ID: <001c01c907b2$f12b4e10$d381ea30$@com> Hi Bar Campers, It?s been about a week since leaving Bar Camp Grand Rapids and I wanted to see how everyone was doing. It was great meeting all of you and I appreciate the knowledge you?ve shared with me. >From my recollection, there were about 30 campers that attended the only break out session that featured a topic on Project or Product Management. If any of you are interested, Ryma Technology Solutions sponsors weekly webinars that feature some great presentations on a wide variety of Product Management topics that range from PM best practices to professional development. This Wednesday, August 27th, at 12:00pm EDT, Marty Cagan, Founder of the Silicon Valley Product Group, will be giving a presentation entitled, ?How to Create Products Customers Love-? (http://community.featureplan.com/community/2008/08/webinar_august_27_1200pm _edt_h.php) and based on the discussion we had during our break out session, I think this webinar will be beneficial for several Bar Campers. A past webinar that may also be of interest, ?Ten Traits of a Good Product Manager,? presented by Jeff Lash, is posted on our Webinar Archive (http://community.featureplan.com/community/2008/07/webinar_july_9_1200pm_ed t_ten.php). We also send out a complimentary weekly webinar announcement that gives a preview of our upcoming presenters and topics. You can sign up for the newsletter or check out the archive by clicking on http://community.featureplan.com/community/webinars/ or let me know and I can help sign you up. Again, it was great meeting all of you and let me know if you are ever in the Austin, TX area! Regards, B. Mike Perico Field Marketing Specialist Tel: 512.992.0586 ?? www.rymatech.com ? Ryma Technology Solutions Anticipate ? Cultivate ? Innovate ? Visit the Product Management community blog http://community.featureplan.com/community/webinars/