[GR-Jug] MailMan vs Yahoo Group

[Carlus Henry]

I better start asking Dave for some money then....

Spamming is horrible.  I have not had that experience with yahoo groups, and
I am a member / moderator for a couple.  Could it be that it was the way
that the group settings were set?  If it is based on the setting, then we
can address the spamming issue.  If it is not based on the setting, then
maybe we should entertain the idea of Google Groups or something along those
lines.

Either way, if we decide to use yahoo, google, or mailman, we need to
communicate to the group members.  I know that there are many members who
rely on the Yahoo Groups as their form of communication for the GRJUG.  It
was evident when I was told that they were looking forward to my
presentation that I was scheduled to give yesterday.  I am going to draft an
email to let everyone know that we are aware of the confusion between the
mailing lists and we are actively working on getting it resolved.  What I
don't know is how we should move forward in making the decisions about which
group to use.

I would like to suggest a quick poll.  We will collect votes over the
weekend, and make a decision by Monday which group mailing we are going to
go with.  The options are:

Google - 0
Yahoo - 1
Mailman - 0

I do not even want to entertain the thought of spending money for this
service at this point and time.  (Ben, shame on you :) )

Thanks
Carlus

P.S.  My vote is the one for Yahoo.


On 4/21/06, Joel Adams <adams at calvin.edu> wrote:
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> Part of the motivation for leaving yahoo was that yahoo changed their
> privacy policy and starting giving out e-mail addresses to their "partners".
> Members of the group then began getting lots of spam. The intent was to
> gradually shift from yahoo to the gr-jug server.
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> Oh, and Dave graduated from Calvin last year, and is working locally. 8^)
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> On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Vasiliy Gagin wrote:
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> I'll vote for Yahoo Group, or Google group.
> Maintenance argument is convincing.
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> On 4/21/06, Carlus Henry <carlushenry at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Sorry to bring up old stuff people, but why did we forgo Yahoo for
> > MailMan?
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> > I have had a lot of experience with the Yahoo group and my personal
> > belief is that the yahoo group is a better fit for our needs.  It requires
> > little to no maintenance and there will be a limited number of support
> > issues.  It would be one less thing that we would be responsible for.
> >
> > I am sure that Dave is more than capable of administering Mailman, but
> > what is going to happen when he graduates and starts to make his millions.
> > He is not going to have time to administer mailman between spending all of
> > his money and sharing it with me....
> >
> > What's more, is that the yahoo group has bigger potential to grow.  We
> > could post pictures, files and all of that good stuff.  It gives us a
> > professional look and feel that we do not have to develop.  There are just
> > so many benefits to using it, that I am not seeing any drawbacks.....
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> > Please share your thoughts on this one.
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> > Thanks
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