[GR-Jug] MailMan vs Yahoo Group
Dave Brondsema
dave at brondsema.net
Fri Apr 21 16:59:17 EDT 2006
Even if we can control the spam issue with yahoo, there are
advertisements aplenty on yahoo group sites. I also can't envision us
actually using the other features of the yahoo group site. Perhaps
uploading slides from presentations, but that's it.
I completely understand the maintenance issue, but I still vote for
self-hosted mailman.
Carlus Henry wrote:
>
> I better start asking Dave for some money then....
>
> Spamming is horrible. I have not had that experience with yahoo groups,
> and I am a member / moderator for a couple. Could it be that it was the
> way that the group settings were set? If it is based on the setting,
> then we can address the spamming issue. If it is not based on the
> setting, then maybe we should entertain the idea of Google Groups or
> something along those lines.
>
> Either way, if we decide to use yahoo, google, or mailman, we need to
> communicate to the group members. I know that there are many members
> who rely on the Yahoo Groups as their form of communication for the
> GRJUG. It was evident when I was told that they were looking forward to
> my presentation that I was scheduled to give yesterday. I am going to
> draft an email to let everyone know that we are aware of the confusion
> between the mailing lists and we are actively working on getting it
> resolved. What I don't know is how we should move forward in making the
> decisions about which group to use.
>
> I would like to suggest a quick poll. We will collect votes over the
> weekend, and make a decision by Monday which group mailing we are going
> to go with. The options are:
>
> Google - 0
> Yahoo - 1
> Mailman - 0
>
> I do not even want to entertain the thought of spending money for this
> service at this point and time. (Ben, shame on you :) )
>
> Thanks
> Carlus
>
> P.S. My vote is the one for Yahoo.
>
>
> On 4/21/06, *Joel Adams* <adams at calvin.edu <mailto:adams at calvin.edu>> wrote:
>
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> Part of the motivation for leaving yahoo was that yahoo changed
> their privacy policy and starting giving out e-mail addresses to
> their "partners". Members of the group then began getting lots of
> spam. The intent was to gradually shift from yahoo to the gr-jug
> server.
>
> Oh, and Dave graduated from Calvin last year, and is working
> locally. 8^)
>
> $0.02,
>
> -Joel.
>
> On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Vasiliy Gagin wrote:
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>> I'll vote for Yahoo Group, or Google group.
>> Maintenance argument is convincing.
>>
>> On 4/21/06, * Carlus Henry* <carlushenry at gmail.com
>> <mailto:carlushenry at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Sorry to bring up old stuff people, but why did we forgo Yahoo
>> for MailMan?
>>
>> I have had a lot of experience with the Yahoo group and my
>> personal belief is that the yahoo group is a better fit for
>> our needs. It requires little to no maintenance and there
>> will be a limited number of support issues. It would be one
>> less thing that we would be responsible for.
>>
>> I am sure that Dave is more than capable of administering
>> Mailman, but what is going to happen when he graduates and
>> starts to make his millions. He is not going to have time to
>> administer mailman between spending all of his money and
>> sharing it with me....
>>
>> What's more, is that the yahoo group has bigger potential to
>> grow. We could post pictures, files and all of that good
>> stuff. It gives us a professional look and feel that we do
>> not have to develop. There are just so many benefits to using
>> it, that I am not seeing any drawbacks.....
>>
>> Please share your thoughts on this one.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carlus
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Dave Brondsema
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