[GR-Jug] [J2EE or PHP]

[jgerrits at ci.grand-rapids.mi.us]

First, I want to apologize for not being there to present on Subversion at the last meeting - but from what I heard, it would have been pretty short anyways.

Also, is there still any insight into the possibility of changing day/time of the meetings?

So, on to the question of JEE or PHP.

I guess it doesn't really matter since you can run PHP on JEE, and it's faster too :)
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38144

And since support for dynamic languages is being added to Java (http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292), the need for these other languages becomes moot.  Just look at what we already have available - Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Groovy, etc.  They give you the power of Java with the faster development time of these other languages.  Hell, you can now (almost) run rails in JRuby (http://headius.blogspot.com/2006/05/and-they-said-jruby-was-dead.html, http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=109).

I will say that I like Groovy a lot.  Normally if I needed a script to connect to a database and generate a plain text file I might use Perl, but Groovy does it in the same amount of code or less.  And I personally think that Grails is going to give Rails a run for it's money.

JG